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What controls on/off cycling of A/C compressor on '04 Accord w/cli


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Just installed a new A/C compressor clutch coil on a 2004 Accord EX V-6 w/climate control system. The problem is the A/C is running all the time. With a digital temp gauge in the center vent a reading of 42f is present and the freon gauge is reading about 28/240, this condition existed for 15 minutes.Engine @2000RPM,windows up,blower @hi,temp set to lo or 58f and recirculation air on. My question is what controls the cycling of the clutch? This system is different from anything (80's Chevy,'92 VW) I have worked on before.

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Just installed a new A/C compressor clutch coil on a 2004 Accord EX V-6 w/climate control system. The problem is the A/C is running all the time. With a digital temp gauge in the center vent a reading of 42f is present and the freon gauge is reading about 28/240, this condition existed for 15 minutes.Engine @2000RPM,windows up,blower @hi,temp set to lo or 58f and recirculation air on. My question is what controls the cycling of the clutch? This system is different from anything (80's Chevy,'92 VW) I have worked on before.

 

 

I thought it had to do with pressure in system more than anything else? Of course I have done very little work on AC! >_<

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Just installed a new A/C compressor clutch coil on a 2004 Accord EX V-6 w/climate control system. The problem is the A/C is running all the time. With a digital temp gauge in the center vent a reading of 42f is present and the freon gauge is reading about 28/240, this condition existed for 15 minutes.Engine @2000RPM,windows up,blower @hi,temp set to lo or 58f and recirculation air on. My question is what controls the cycling of the clutch? This system is different from anything (80's Chevy,'92 VW) I have worked on before.

 

Did you vac the system to -30psi, seal the system and then install refrigerent prior to operating the system?

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Pressure controls cycling. If the pressures remain normal, then nothing is going to make the system shut down. On really hot days, the pressures get a little high, and a switch shuts off power to the clutch to let the pressure go down a little bit. On cold days, the pressure gets low, and the switch shuts off power to let it go up a bit. On mild days, the pressures stay moderate, and the system will not need to shut off.

 

Obviously, you could always have a bad pressure switch. The pressures you've shown are pretty good though, and it doesn't look like you have a problem.

 

When you say the condition exists for 15 minutes, do you mean it finally cycles off after that long? If so, you're running perfectly.

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I just shut it down after 15 minutes. I spoke with a person at Advance Auto who knows a bit of how auto A/C works and he stated that the newer cars >2000 operate differently than older systems in that the compressor clutch does not cycle every 30-60 seconds or so, they now remain engaged and a thermostatically controlled orfice will control the back pressure on the compressor's high side. I noticed the clutch plate/pulley surface was in like new condition not the gauled look of older style GM compressor clutches. This is a better operating design that will reduce compressor/clutch/belt fatigue. The only time the clutch will cycle is in the winter time when defrost is engaged and compressor clutch is engaged.

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the compressor is cycled by the thermostat which has a probe that is stuck in fins of the evaporator. the purpose of the a/c cycling is to simply prevent the evaporator from freezing. hopefully the gauge you are using is a probe type gauge you actually put in the vent as opposed to an infared type as these are extremely inaccurate when in comes to a/c work. also why did you replace the compressor in the first place?

 

I just shut it down after 15 minutes. I spoke with a person at Advance Auto who knows a bit of how auto A/C works and he stated that the newer cars >2000 operate differently than older systems in that the compressor clutch does not cycle every 30-60 seconds or so, they now remain engaged and a thermostatically controlled orfice will control the back pressure on the compressor's high side. I noticed the clutch plate/pulley surface was in like new condition not the gauled look of older style GM compressor clutches. This is a better operating design that will reduce compressor/clutch/belt fatigue. The only time the clutch will cycle is in the winter time when defrost is engaged and compressor clutch is engaged.
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