SIR_VTEC Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Alright so here we go.... Alright I listed my xbox elite bundle for sale on craigslist, well I was in contact with a bunch of people, but one person in particular.... This person insisted that we use paypal because she didnt want to get ripped off....well the payment was sent...it was sent from her supposed brother, first she said I will be getting payment from her Brother...Michael...but payment came from a Brian Emes from New York...as you guys may know Im from Wisconsin.... Well anyway since I couldnt ship it out, I decided to drive th 30 minutes away because I was doing this out of the kindness of my heart because she wanted the item for her supposed son. Note, she never gave me a phone number...so when I got to the address...it wasnt address to be found...so instinctively I called the police and asked them to verify the address...adress not found...and I was like WTF, this has got to be a scam and some sh1t might go down...well anyway im sitting there with three of my friends cause we were going to go to the bar right after... So we wait...for like 20 fuK1ng minutes for this kid, note...im emailing this lady back and forth cause she refuses to call me blocked or even give me her number...i tell her theres no such address and I verified that the police said that the address she gave me doesnt exist, so Im like ok...well shes like just drop it off on the porch on the back..im like oh hell no im not doing that....so she insisted that i do that or she will call the police on me...lol im like yeah good luck calling the cops on me, you have nothing but a contact email... then she was like oh my son finally came back home, he will meet you there...im like meet me where? and why the hell cant i just give the item to you...and she was like I dont know you and dont trust you...im like lady...you just gave me 500 for an xbox and games....but you dont trust me...whatever... So this kid finally came up to my window...looked scared as all hell, and had 5 other kids with him...he was about 15-16 Well anyway I verified his name, and gave him the item and off I went.... Well Now i just got a dispute through paypal, from this Brian Emes guy that sent me the payment...he says i was suppose to send him Yankee Tickets...im like whoa whoa whoa WTF, I live in WI what would I have to do with Yankee tickets, and right now im super p1ssed and not sure whats going to happen, paypal deducted my account 485.20 and if I have to supposedly pay that back, im out an xbox, games, and warranty....and pay the money back!!! What do you think is going to happen? I am so clueless right now and just worried about the whole thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbith Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 The only thing i see that can really happen here is that you are out of an xbox and some money. Sucks. Lesson learned: always face to face with cash. And always a bill of sale with name, address, phone number. Hope things work out for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 yeah maybe should of created a bill of sale, but the fact is I have all the emails that state the specifics of the transactions....just dont understand why i would be responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_adbell Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 because thats how a scam works. sux tho, sorry contact the brian guy and ask for verification that you "owe" him yankee tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 File a police report. Technically you need to file with the fbi because it is a cross state border issue. If you do file with the fbi they will completely ignore the filing unless it exceeds a specific dollar amount or if it is part of a larger pattern of crime. The basics of the scam is this: PayPal is a customer advocate in nearly all cases. Unless you can show positive proof otherwise they will always default to the buying party. On the paypal dispute have they filed a complaint or is it already escalated to a full dispute? There are two distinct levels of dispute. Which stage it is at is important. The different levels offer different features. In the first level all PayPal will do is facilitate discussion between the two parties and the money is put on hold and no one gets it. In the second stage the money is actually given to the customer and you will need to fight with paypal directly to have it returned. Things you must have to have any chance of getting your money back via PayPal: Written proof of the transaction. Emails with specific intent to purchase will suffice but they must include the person's full name. Some form of delivery confirmation. You must have a tracking number or signed bill of sale. Contact information. Person's name, number and valid address. If you do not have these things PayPal won't give you the time of day. Your only option might be working with the Police to try and catch the people. Bottom line, PayPal is great but only if the person sending you the money is verified and the place the item is going is the same place the money came from. For anything else make sure it is cash only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yea I think im completely F*cked.....i want to find this little kid and his supposed mother and take em both to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You should act like nothing bad has happened and contact her back again to see if they are interested in buying any of the games or accessories you have for the xbox. See if you can get another meeting. If she is game get the police involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphries Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 sucks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yea im trying everything, even checking out the craigslist, maybe they are stupid enough to list it to make a quick buck you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 man that blows.. id find that bitch and choke her punkass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Im trying to track the IP address right now, but im failing lol cause im no comp wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryon Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 You can contact your isp too. They often will corroborate with local authorities to catch internet criminals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex37211 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 if it makes you feel any better, we just had a full k20a2 swap stolen that we already had sold for $3600. Now we gotta refund the money and just bite our lips in anger. :rant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 wow... that f*cking sucks javy you better get your sh!t back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 oh wow...that suuucks, Javy...sorry... I hope you get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 I really dont care about the xbox so much, i just dont think I should be paying 500.00 to some guy that supposedly said these were for xbox tickets...its just funny becuase when you send someone payment via paypal there usually is something in a header or in a message stating what the payment is for, this didnt state yankee tickets at all! Im not even in NY lol...but yea i filed a police report...what what authorities say is i have the upper hand, becuase I have a bill of sale, records of all the emails and this other guy has nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnoossss Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 thats fked up man people try and fk u over all the time. You definetly have the upper hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Hope you get them.....but seriously....I would NEVER accept paypal on something I am hand delivering. I even sold a car once for $3600 and made the guy bring me cash. I would have been leary the second I got the payment from somebody other than who she said....definitely leary enough to walk away when I found out the address they gave doesn't exist. No offense intended (seriously) but use common sense next time.....there are about a dozen red flags on this transaction that screamed WALK AWAY FROM THIS DEAL!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 ^ yeah man i really didnt, realize it until after the fact ya know...i've just been too busy at work, and when i finally put two and two together im like f^ck...so right now im just waiting on the police report to finish up and then hopefully get this cleared up with paypal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lceah Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 gl Javy... people like that are the worst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIR_VTEC Posted April 21, 2009 Author Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks Lina, yea its just sad that people still stoop this low still...thats why our society will never be civil...cause morons like these ruin everything for all the decent people out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Damn dude, good luck with this bs. I know how you feel I've had to deal with this twice and once I hadn't even bought anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanGSR Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Definitely good luck. Even though I think you should have seen it coming...I still hope you can get it all straightened out. Sucks for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrIaN EG2 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 any updates javy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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